Mark Zuckerberg talks Apple and ‘deep bitterness’ around app policies
Published on: 2025-07-31 00:15:20
Apple’s developer relations are a major point of controversy at the moment following the court ruling related to Epic Games. Earlier this week, Mark Zuckerberg discussed Meta’s relationship with Apple in an interview that was just published at Stratechery. Here’s what he said.
Zuckerberg outlines history of troublesome Apple relationship
Ben Thompson of Stratechery was able to interview Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg this week on a wide range of issues. They met in person Monday at Meta’s first ever LlaamaCon developer conference.
The full interview was just published, and contains some interesting tidbits on Zuckerberg and Meta’s history working with Apple.
Thompson begins by mentioning that many of Facebook’s developer platform announcements over the years are now either “dead” or “massively constrained” per the original vision.
Naturally, this steered the conversation to Apple.
Here’s Zuckerberg:
As the usage transitioned from desktop web to mobile, Apple basically just said, “You
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