GoKawiilBuilding Pi With Pi
Pi is now part of Earendil, but in the important sense it is still Mario’s project. He has been living with its issue tracker longer than I have, and he has been exposed to the weirdness of the new form of agent traffic in Open Source projects for longer too. This post is mostly a reflection of my own experience after spending more time in the tracker, using Pi to work on Pi, and watching what I have learned about it so far.
Slop Issues
Unsurprisingly, we are using Pi to build Pi. That sounds like a cute dogfooding thing but it really helps understand what we do. An interesting effect of building with agents is that it changes the role of the issue tracker a tiny bit. The issue descriptions are not just messages from a user to a maintainer because we also use them as inputs for prompts in Pi sessions. It is something I might hand to my clanker and say: “understand this, reproduce it, inspect the code, and propose a fix.”
That means the shape of the issue matters in a new way. A bad issue was always annoying, but at least a lot of issues were vague. Now we are also dealing with a class of issues that are 5% human and 95% clanker-generated and largely inaccurate shit. A bad issue that contains a plausible but wrong diagnosis creates extra work.
The most frustrating failure mode right now is that people submit issues that are not in their own voice. They contain an observed problem somewhere, but it has been thrown into a clanker and the clanker reworded it and made a huge mess of it. Typically, it was prompted so badly that the conclusions produced are more often than not inaccurate but always full of confidence. The result is complete guesswork on root causes, fake-minimal repros, suggested implementation strategies, analogies to adjacent but often the wrong code, and long lists of error classes that might or might not matter.
That is worse than no diagnosis.
I don’t want to point to specific issues because I really do not want to bad mouth anyone, but it is frustrating. It is also frustrating because when I give that issue to Pi, Pi sees the wrong diagnosis too. It does not treat the issue body as a rumor. It treats it as evidence. It will happily go down the path that the issue already prepared for it, because the prose is confident and the code references look plausible. We use a custom slash command called /is , which specifically has this instruction in it:
Do not trust analysis written in the issue. Independently verify behavior and derive your own analysis from the code and execution path.
Unfortunately, it does not fully work, because when humans first throw their issue through the clanker wringer, their clanker expands scope almost immediately. What was once a very narrow and fact based bug observation, turns into a much expanded surface area full of hypotheses. So at least personally, I increasingly want issue reports to be condensed to what the human actually observed:
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