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Barret Zoph, the Thinking Machines co-founder who defected to OpenAI, is now at Google

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Why This Matters

Barret Zoph's movement between major AI firms highlights the fluid and competitive nature of leadership in the AI industry. His return to Google underscores the company's ongoing investment in advanced AI research, particularly in reinforcement learning and post-training techniques, which are crucial for developing next-generation AI models. This high turnover among AI executives signals both the rapid evolution of the field and the intense competition for top talent, impacting innovation and strategic direction across the industry.

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In Brief

The game of musical chairs for AI executives continues. Barret Zoph, a co-founder of the AI startup Thinking Machines who left the company earlier this year to rejoin OpenAI, has found yet another job.

Zoph spent two years at OpenAI and left in October 2024 to co-found Thinking Machines with Mira Murati, who had left the AI lab the month prior. In January, Zoph and another Thinking Machines co-founder, Luke Metz, quite dramatically departed from the startup to return to OpenAI.

His return didn’t quite stick. Zoph spent only five months at OpenAI, where he was tasked with heading AI enterprise sales. He left the company in June. And now we know where he landed.

Zoph has taken a position as vice president of research at Google (which happens to be another company where he previously worked). “We look forward to Barret returning to Google and bringing his RL and post-training expertise to Gemini,” a Google spokesperson told the Wall Street Journal.

TechCrunch reached out to OpenAI and Google for more information.

It’s not always easy to divine why tech executives seem to be spending less time in their roles. The turnover rate in the AI industry is high, and it’s been especially high at OpenAI — a company that, despite readying itself for an IPO and being one of the most powerful presences in the tech world, has lost a lot of critical staff over the last eight months. High-level executives — from the departure of its COO to the recent loss of one of its top data center execs — has left onlookers scratching their heads.