The Showdown Between Elon Musk and Sam Altman
Published on: 2025-07-11 19:10:50
Lauren Goode: Sam said that?
Zoë Schiffer: To his employees.
Lauren Goode: Interesting.
Michael Calore: He also came out on X and said something about, "I wish he would compete."
Zoë Schiffer: Oh, yeah. He was like, "I wish he would compete in the marketplace, not in the courtroom."
Lauren Goode: Yeah. Sam said in a Bloomberg News interview, "I wish he would just compete by building a better product. Probably his whole life is from a position of insecurity." Shots fired. And he said he didn't think that he was a happy person.
Zoë Schiffer: Oh my gosh. Is Sam Altman trying to compete to write the next Elon Musk biography? This feels like some Walter Isaacson level psychology.
Lauren Goode: I don't know. Zoe, I have to say, every time I see something like this breaking in the news, these two guys fighting something with OpenAI, I quite literally hear your voice in my head from one of our earlier episodes going, "Messy, messy, messy."
Zoë Schiffer: It is. It is so messy. I really
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