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Dwarkesh Patel podcast hosts AI researchers to debate recursive self-improvement timeline

A new episode of Dwarkesh Patel's podcast features researchers John Schulman, Beren Millidge and Charlie O'Neill discussing how close AI systems are to achieving recursive self-improvement, where models could enhance their own capabilities without human intervention. The conversation, drawn from researchers at leading AI labs, opens with arguments against the idea that such self-improvement is imminent.