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Making 2.5 Flash and 2.5 Pro GA, and introducing Gemini 2.5 Flash-Lite

news.ycombinator.com Tulsee Doshi 2025-09-08 14:06:05

We designed Gemini 2.5 to be a family of hybrid reasoning models that provide amazing performance, while also being at the Pareto Frontier of cost and speed. Today, we’re taking the next step with our 2.5 Pro and Flash models by releasing them as stable and generally available. And we’re bringing you 2.5 Flash-Lite in preview — our most cost-efficient and fastest 2.5 model yet. Making 2.5 Flash and 2.5 Pro generally available Thanks to all of your feedback, today we’re releasing stable version

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What Apple's controversial research paper really tells us about LLMs

zdnet.com Sabrina Ortiz 2025-09-09 01:06:46

CHRISTOPH BURGSTEDT/SCIENCE PHOTO LIBRARY/Getty Generative AI models quickly proved they were capable of performing technical tasks well. Adding reasoning capabilities to the models unlocked unforeseen capabilities, enabling the models to think through more complex questions and produce better-quality, more accurate responses -- or so we thought. Last week, Apple released a research report called "The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the

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We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models

news.ycombinator.com Tulsee Doshi 2025-09-09 05:06:05

We designed Gemini 2.5 to be a family of hybrid reasoning models that provide amazing performance, while also being at the Pareto Frontier of cost and speed. Today, we’re taking the next step with our 2.5 Pro and Flash models by releasing them as stable and generally available. And we’re bringing you 2.5 Flash-Lite in preview — our most cost-efficient and fastest 2.5 model yet. Making 2.5 Flash and 2.5 Pro generally available Thanks to all of your feedback, today we’re releasing stable version

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California is trying to regulate its AI giants — again

theverge.com Hayden Field 2025-09-09 05:07:48

is The Verge’s senior AI reporter. An AI beat reporter for more than five years, her work has also appeared in CNBC, MIT Technology Review, Wired UK, and other outlets. Last September, all eyes were on Senate Bill 1047 as it made its way to California Governor Gavin Newsom’s desk — and died there as he vetoed the buzzy piece of legislation. SB 1047 would have required makers of all large AI models, particularly those that cost $100 million or more to train, to test them for specific dangers. A

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Adobe's Firefly generative AI app is now available on mobile

engadget.com Unknown 2025-09-09 17:00:55

When its redesigned Firefly app arrived earlier this year, Adobe launched the platform without Android and iOS app support, saying those would come at a later date. Today, the company is making good on that promise, with both versions available to download from their respective storefronts. If you're new to Firefly, it's the place where Adobe brings together all of its AI image, video, audio and vector generation tools. The company relaunched the app in April at its Max conference in London. Si

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Adobe Firefly app is finally launching to users. Here's how to access (and the perks)

zdnet.com Sabrina Ortiz 2025-09-09 17:00:19

Adobe Adobe has an extensive suite of generative AI tools for image and video editing, including the viral software Generative Fill, packaged in Firefly, its application for AI-assisted content creation. Now, all of these tools are readily available on your phone via a new Firefly app. The app Adobe has announced that its Firefly app is available for free download on iOS and Android. The app has been designed to offer the same Firefly experiences users know and love on the web, but in a conve

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Adobe's New AI Mobile App Lets You Use 6 New AI Models, Including Google's Veo 3

cnet.com See Full Bio 2025-09-09 17:00:05

Adobe just dropped a ton of AI news, so let's dive into what that means for you. First up, the company is dropping brand-new Firefly AI mobile apps for iPhones and Androids. You can download these apps now for free and use Firefly to create AI images and videos on the go. Plus, the app comes with a few free generative credits for you to experiment with Adobe's AI. Next, Adobe is expanding its roster of third-party AI partners to include six new models from Ideogram, Pika, Luma and Runway. Googl

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Adobe’s Firefly comes to iOS and Android

techcrunch.com Ivan Mehta 2025-09-09 17:00:00

Adobe has been on a quest to attract users to its platform for their AI needs. The company in April launched a redesigned Firefly web app that lets users use Adobe’s own Firefly image- and video-generation models as well as third-party models. Now, it is releasing a Firefly app on both iOS and Android that lets people use all of its models as well as models from OpenAI (GPT image generation), Google (Imagen 3 and Veo 2), and Flux (Flux 1.1 Pro). Like the web app, the new smartphone apps let yo

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When AIs bargain, a less advanced agent could cost you

technologyreview.com Caiwei Chen 2025-09-10 03:00:00

This study is part of a growing body of research warning about the risks of deploying AI agents in real-world financial decision-making. Earlier this month, a group of researchers from multiple universities argued that LLM agents should be evaluated primarily on the basis of their risk profiles, not just their peak performance. Current benchmarks, they say, emphasize accuracy and return-based metrics, which measure how well an agent can perform at its best but overlook how safely it can fail. Th

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Inside LinkedIn’s AI overhaul: Job search powered by LLM distillation

venturebeat.com Emilia David 2025-09-10 08:52:31

Join the event trusted by enterprise leaders for nearly two decades. VB Transform brings together the people building real enterprise AI strategy. Learn more The advent of natural language search has encouraged people to change how they search for information, and LinkedIn, which has been working with numerous AI models over the past year, hopes this shift extends to job search. LinkedIn’s AI-powered jobs search, now available to all LinkedIn users, uses distilled, fine-tuned models trained on

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ChatGPT Has Already Polluted the Internet So Badly That It's Hobbling Future AI Development

futurism.com Unknown 2025-09-10 11:38:21

The rapid rise of ChatGPT — and the cavalcade of competitors' generative models that followed suit — has polluted the internet with so much useless slop that it's already kneecapping the development of future AI models. As the AI-generated data clouds the human creations that these models are so heavily dependent on amalgamating, it becomes inevitable that a greater share of what these so-called intelligences learn from and imitate is itself an ersatz AI creation. Repeat this process enough, a

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Is gravity just entropy rising? Long-shot idea gets another look

news.ycombinator.com George Musser 2025-09-11 07:36:41

Isaac Newton was never entirely happy with his law of universal gravitation. For decades after publishing it in 1687, he sought to understand how, exactly, two objects were able to pull on each other from afar. He and others came up with several mechanical models, in which gravity was not a pull, but a push. For example, space might be filled with unseen particles that bombard the objects on all sides. The object on the left absorbs the particles coming from the left, the one on the right absorb

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Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry Potter book

news.ycombinator.com Timothy B. Lee 2025-09-11 19:41:53

In recent years, numerous plaintiffs—including publishers of books, newspapers, computer code, and photographs—have sued AI companies for training models using copyrighted material. A key question in all of these lawsuits has been how easily AI models produce verbatim excerpts from the plaintiffs’ copyrighted content. For example, in its December 2023 lawsuit against OpenAI, the New York Times Company produced dozens of examples where GPT-4 exactly reproduced significant passages from Times sto

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Chemical knowledge and reasoning of large language models vs. chemist expertise

news.ycombinator.com Mirza 2025-09-10 18:22:06

Benchmark corpus To compile our benchmark corpus, we utilized a broad list of sources (Methods), ranging from completely novel, manually crafted questions over university exams to semi-automatically generated questions based on curated subsets of data in chemical databases. For quality assurance, all questions have been reviewed by at least two scientists in addition to the original curator and automated checks. Importantly, our large pool of questions encompasses a wide range of topics and que

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Is Gravity Just Entropy Rising? Long-Shot Idea Gets Another Look

news.ycombinator.com George Musser 2025-09-12 08:36:41

Isaac Newton was never entirely happy with his law of universal gravitation. For decades after publishing it in 1687, he sought to understand how, exactly, two objects were able to pull on each other from afar. He and others came up with several mechanical models, in which gravity was not a pull, but a push. For example, space might be filled with unseen particles that bombard the objects on all sides. The object on the left absorbs the particles coming from the left, the one on the right absorb

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Do reasoning AI models really ‘think’ or not? Apple research sparks lively debate, response

venturebeat.com Carl Franzen 2025-09-10 16:02:22

Join the event trusted by enterprise leaders for nearly two decades. VB Transform brings together the people building real enterprise AI strategy. Learn more Apple’s machine-learning group set off a rhetorical firestorm earlier this month with its release of “The Illusion of Thinking,” a 53-page research paper arguing that so-called large reasoning models (LRMs) or reasoning large language models (reasoning LLMs) such as OpenAI’s “o” series and Google’s Gemini-2.5 Pro and Flash Thinking don’t a

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The 14 Best TVs We’ve Reviewed, Plus Buying Advice (2025)

wired.com Ryan Waniata 2025-09-12 07:03:00

Saving up for a new screen? Whether you’re a videophile or new to 4K, the best TVs you can buy are bigger, brighter, and cheaper than ever. To help you navigate the dozens of models from LG, Samsung, TCL, Hisense, Sony, Panasonic, and others, we've done intensive testing and watched hundreds of hours of content to grab the standouts from our recent reviews. Below you'll find everything from the best OLED TVs we've ever tested to the best cheap TVs for tight budgets—with plenty of excellent optio

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These are the best iPad deals right now, just in case iPadOS 26 made you rethink things

9to5mac.com Michael Burkhardt 2025-09-11 21:57:20

A short while ago, I was browsing Apple deals on Amazon (as one does) – and something stuck out to me. High-end iPad Pros, particularly 12.9-inch models, are surprisingly cheap. I saw M1 models with 1TB and cellular for under $700. Given the recent iPadOS 26 overhaul that makes the iPad much more Mac-like, I figured these deals would be worth a share. While renewed iPad deals are the focus here because of their affordability, new iPad deals are also mentioned at the end. Renewed M1 iPad Pro de

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Rethinking AI: DeepSeek’s playbook shakes up the high-spend, high-compute paradigm

venturebeat.com Jae Lee 2025-09-12 04:05:00

Join the event trusted by enterprise leaders for nearly two decades. VB Transform brings together the people building real enterprise AI strategy. Learn more When DeepSeek released its R1 model this January, it wasn’t just another AI announcement. It was a watershed moment that sent shockwaves through the tech industry, forcing industry leaders to reconsider their fundamental approaches to AI development. What makes DeepSeek’s accomplishment remarkable isn’t that the company developed novel ca

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Seven replies to the viral Apple reasoning paper and why they fall short

news.ycombinator.com Gary Marcus 2025-09-12 04:52:38

The Apple paper on limitations in the “reasoning” of Large Reasoning Models, which raised challenges for the latest scaling hypothesis, has clearly touched a nerve. Tons of media outlets covered it; huge numbers of people on social media are discussing. My own post here laying out the Apple paper in historical and scientific context was so popular that well over 150,000 people read it, biggest in this newsletter’s history. The Guardian published an adaptation of my post (“When billion-dollar AI

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Beyond GPT architecture: Why Google’s Diffusion approach could reshape LLM deployment

venturebeat.com David Chen 2025-09-12 07:48:11

Join the event trusted by enterprise leaders for nearly two decades. VB Transform brings together the people building real enterprise AI strategy. Learn more Last month, along with a comprehensive suite of new AI tools and innovations, Google DeepMind unveiled Gemini Diffusion. This experimental research model uses a diffusion-based approach to generate text. Traditionally, large language models (LLMs) like GPT and Gemini itself have relied on autoregression, a step-by-step approach where each

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Do reasoning models really “think” or not? Apple research sparks lively debate, response

venturebeat.com Carl Franzen 2025-09-12 13:02:22

Join the event trusted by enterprise leaders for nearly two decades. VB Transform brings together the people building real enterprise AI strategy. Learn more Apple’s machine-learning group set off a rhetorical firestorm earlier this month with its release of “The Illusion of Thinking,” a 53-page research paper arguing that so-called large reasoning models (LRMs) or reasoning large language models (reasoning LLMs) such as OpenAI’s “o” series and Google’s Gemini-2.5 Pro and Flash Thinking don’t a

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New paper pushes back on Apple’s LLM ‘reasoning collapse’ study

9to5mac.com Marcus Mendes 2025-09-12 13:53:57

Apple’s recent AI research paper, “The Illusion of Thinking”, has been making waves for its blunt conclusion: even the most advanced Large Reasoning Models (LRMs) collapse on complex tasks. But not everyone agrees with that framing. Today, Alex Lawsen, a researcher at Open Philanthropy, published a detailed rebuttal arguing that many of Apple’s most headline-grabbing findings boil down to experimental design flaws, not fundamental reasoning limits. The paper also credits Anthropic’s Claude Opus

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Frontier AI Models Are Getting Stumped by a Simple Children's Game

futurism.com Unknown 2025-09-13 20:23:31

Earlier this week, researchers at Apple released a damning paper, criticizing the AI industry for vastly overstating the ability of its top AI models to reason or "think." The team found that the models including OpenAI's o3, Anthropic's Claude 3.7, and Google's Gemini were stumped by even the simplest of puzzles. For instance, the "large reasoning models," or LRMs, consistently failed at Tower of Hanoi, a children's puzzle game that involves three pegs and a number of differently-sized disks t

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Zero-Shot Forecasting: Our Search for a Time-Series Foundation Model

news.ycombinator.com Unknown 2025-09-13 22:04:56

Introduction In the last few years, the field of time-series forecasting has seen a fundamental shift. Where we once depended solely on classic statistical methods, think ARIMA, SARIMA, and Prophet, new “foundation” models have emerged, promising to bring the power and flexibility of large language models (LLMs) into the world of time-series data. The allure is obvious: can we build a single, reusable forecasting model that works across a variety of datasets and domains, instead of painstakingl

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AI flunks logic test: Multiple studies reveal illusion of reasoning

techspot.com Cal Jeffrey 2025-09-15 01:17:00

Bottom line: More and more AI companies say their models can reason. Two recent studies say otherwise. When asked to show their logic, most models flub the task – proving they're not reasoning so much as rehashing patterns. The result: confident answers, but not intelligent ones. Apple researchers have uncovered a key weakness in today's most hyped AI systems – they falter at solving puzzles that require step-by-step reasoning. In a new paper, the team tested several leading models on the Tower

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Meta Says Its New AI Model Understands Physical Rules Like Gravity

cnet.com See Full Bio 2025-09-15 09:07:40

A new generative AI model Meta released this week could change how machines understand the physical world, opening up opportunities for smarter robots and more, the company said. The new open-source model, called Video Joint Embedding Predictive Architecture 2, or V-JEPA 2, is designed to help artificial intelligence understand things like gravity and object permanence, Meta said. "By sharing this work, we aim to give researchers and developers access to the best models and benchmarks to help

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Google Has a New AI-Weather Model for Cyclones. Should Experts Trust It?

cnet.com See Full Bio 2025-09-15 13:37:58

On Thursday, Google announced a new advancement powered by artificial intelligence that could change the way we predict hurricanes. Weather Lab is an interactive website that shows live and historic AI weather models, including its latest tropical cyclone model, which includes hurricanes. It was developed by Google DeepMind, the company's London-based AI research lab. The cyclone model can predict the formation, track, intensity, size and shape of the storm. And it can create 50 possible scenar

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First thoughts on o3 pro

news.ycombinator.com Ben Hylak 2025-09-14 01:42:19

As “leaked”, OpenAI cut o3 pricing by 80% today (from $10/$40 per mtok to $2/$8 - matching GPT 4.1 pricing!!) to set the stage of the launch of o3-pro ($20/$80, supporting an unverified community theory that the -pro variants are 10x base model calls with majority voting as referenced in their papers and in our Chai episode). o3-pro reports a 64% win rate vs o3 on human testers and does marginally better on 4/4 reliability benchmarks, but as sama noticed, the actual experience expands when you t

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Google DeepMind just changed hurricane forecasting forever with new AI model

venturebeat.com Michael Nuñez 2025-09-16 01:00:00

Join the event trusted by enterprise leaders for nearly two decades. VB Transform brings together the people building real enterprise AI strategy. Learn more Google DeepMind announced Thursday what it claims is a major breakthrough in hurricane forecasting, introducing an artificial intelligence system that can predict both the path and intensity of tropical cyclones with unprecedented accuracy — a longstanding challenge that has eluded traditional weather models for decades. The company launc

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Latest Tech News

Making 2.5 Flash and 2.5 Pro GA, and introducing Gemini 2.5 Flash-Lite

What Apple's controversial research paper really tells us about LLMs

We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models

California is trying to regulate its AI giants — again

Adobe's Firefly generative AI app is now available on mobile

Adobe Firefly app is finally launching to users. Here's how to access (and the perks)

Adobe's New AI Mobile App Lets You Use 6 New AI Models, Including Google's Veo 3

Adobe’s Firefly comes to iOS and Android

When AIs bargain, a less advanced agent could cost you

Inside LinkedIn’s AI overhaul: Job search powered by LLM distillation

ChatGPT Has Already Polluted the Internet So Badly That It's Hobbling Future AI Development

Is gravity just entropy rising? Long-shot idea gets another look

Meta's Llama 3.1 can recall 42 percent of the first Harry Potter book

Chemical knowledge and reasoning of large language models vs. chemist expertise

Is Gravity Just Entropy Rising? Long-Shot Idea Gets Another Look

Do reasoning AI models really ‘think’ or not? Apple research sparks lively debate, response

The 14 Best TVs We’ve Reviewed, Plus Buying Advice (2025)

These are the best iPad deals right now, just in case iPadOS 26 made you rethink things

Rethinking AI: DeepSeek’s playbook shakes up the high-spend, high-compute paradigm

Seven replies to the viral Apple reasoning paper and why they fall short

Beyond GPT architecture: Why Google’s Diffusion approach could reshape LLM deployment

Do reasoning models really “think” or not? Apple research sparks lively debate, response

New paper pushes back on Apple’s LLM ‘reasoning collapse’ study

Frontier AI Models Are Getting Stumped by a Simple Children's Game

Zero-Shot Forecasting: Our Search for a Time-Series Foundation Model

AI flunks logic test: Multiple studies reveal illusion of reasoning

Meta Says Its New AI Model Understands Physical Rules Like Gravity

Google Has a New AI-Weather Model for Cyclones. Should Experts Trust It?

First thoughts on o3 pro

Google DeepMind just changed hurricane forecasting forever with new AI model

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