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After User Backlash, OpenAI Is Bringing Back Older ChatGPT Models

cnet.com See Full Bio 2025-12-08 16:24:00

OpenAI hoped to shrink the menu of generative AI models on its ChatGPT platform to just one with the release of its GPT-5 model this week. Not everyone was a fan. Now CEO Sam Altman says the developer is looking at giving ChatGPT Plus subscribers the option to keep using the older 4o model. Altman and other OpenAI leaders took questions on Reddit on Friday, a day after the announcement of the new GPT-5 model. A quick glance through the comments revealed how many users preferred how older model

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Let's properly analyze an AI article for once

news.ycombinator.com View My Complete Profile 2025-12-08 08:30:57

A gathering of development thoughts of Jussi Pakkanen. Some of you may know him as the creator of the Meson build system. jpakkane at gmail dot com

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Representing Python notebooks as dataflow graphs

news.ycombinator.com Unknown 2025-12-04 06:39:09

This blog is adapted from our talk at PyCon 2025. marimo is free and open source, available on GitHub. For a free online experience with link sharing, try molab. marimo is a new kind of open-source Python notebook. While traditional notebooks are just REPLs, marimo notebooks are Python programs represented as dataflow graphs. This intermediate representation lets marimo blend the best parts of interactive computing with the reproducibility and reusability of Python software: every marimo notebo

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Gear News of the Week: iPhone 17 May Be a Month Away, and Sonos to Raise Prices

wired.com Julian Chokkattu 2025-12-08 17:30:00

If rumors are correct, Apple's annual iPhone event will take place exactly a month from today, on September 9. That's according to a German website citing internal documents from German mobile phone providers, but the date was also previously suggested by Bloomberg's Apple whisperer, Mark Gurman. Leaks about Apple's upcoming smartphone lineup have heated up in recent weeks. Apple is expected to debut four iPhones as usual, with one key distinction. The “Plus” iPhone no longer exists, replaced b

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OpenAI Bringing Back More Parasocial Version of ChatGPT After Users Scream and Cry That Their Robot Friend Got Taken Away

futurism.com Unknown 2025-12-08 09:37:39

ChatGPT's fans have developed intense attachments to some of the "personalities" exhibited by the company's large language models (LLMs) — and as such, many were in a state of panic when the choice to switch between models like GPT-4o, 4.5, and others was abruptly taken away after the release of GPT-5. OpenAI briefly kiboshed the model picker option from ChatGPT as part of the launch of GPT-5, its long-awaited new LLM, which essentially forced everyone to use the latest model whether they liked

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ChatGPT users hate GPT-5’s “overworked secretary” energy, miss their GPT-4o buddy

arstechnica.com Unknown 2025-12-08 09:26:02

After months of hype and anticipation, OpenAI released its new GPT-5 model family this week. Promising massive upgrades across the board, the company is already working to roll out the new AI to everyone. Some dedicated ChatGPT users wish it would stop, though. After becoming accustomed to the vibe of the GPT-4 models, the switch to GPT-5 doesn't feel right. Around the Internet, chatbot fans are lamenting the loss of the digital "friends" they've grown to appreciate, which probably says a lot ab

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James Lovell, the steady astronaut who brought Apollo 13 home safely, has died

arstechnica.com Unknown 2025-12-08 18:28:04

James Lovell, a member of humanity's first trip to the moon and commander of NASA's ill-fated Apollo 13 mission, has died at the age of 97. Lovell's death on Thursday was announced by the space agency. "NASA sends its condolences to the family of Capt. Jim Lovell, whose life and work inspired millions of people across the decades," said acting NASA Administrator Sean Duffy in a statement on Friday. "Jim's character and steadfast courage helped our nation reach the moon and turned a potential t

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OpenAI to fix GPT-5 issues, double rate limits for paid users after outrage

bleepingcomputer.com Unknown 2025-12-08 20:23:43

OpenAI's CEO, Sam Altman, overpromised on GPT-5, and real-life results are underwhelming, but it looks like a new update is rolling out that might address some of the concerns. GPT-5 is a state-of-the-art model. In our tests, BleepingComputer found that GPT-5 does really well in coding. It was significantly faster than the other OpenAI models, including o3. However, GPT-5 struggles to be 'creative' in writing, and it also often fails to switch to its new reasoning capabilities when users expec

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Why building a self-hosted SaaS is harder

news.ycombinator.com Unknown 2025-12-04 22:58:02

In the 90s, we flew in technicians to install Oracle databases in server basements. Today, Supabase spins up a backend, in seconds, for free. Over the past 30 years, software has gotten faster, cheaper and easier in almost every way. Some engineers might miss 24-month cycles of tranquil coding, but nobody wants to do code reviews over email or contort software to run on a 10 year-old server rack your eighth-biggest customer is still using. As an open source SaaS startup, we need to be able to

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OpenAI returns old models to ChatGPT as Sam Altman admits ‘bumpy’ GPT-5 rollout

venturebeat.com Carl Franzen 2025-12-09 02:17:22

Want smarter insights in your inbox? Sign up for our weekly newsletters to get only what matters to enterprise AI, data, and security leaders. Subscribe Now OpenAI co-founder and CEO Sam Altman is publicly acknowledging major hiccups in yesterday’s rollout of GPT-5, the company’s new, flagship large language model (LLM) — advertised as its most powerful and capable yet. Answering user questions in a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything) thread and in a post on X this afternoon, Altman admitted to a ran

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Apple taught an LLM to predict tokens up to 5x faster in math and coding tasks

9to5mac.com Marcus Mendes 2025-12-09 03:53:20

A new research paper from Apple details a technique that speeds up large language model responses, while preserving output quality. Here are the details. The nerdy bits Traditionally, LLMs generate text one token at a time. This is slow because each step depends on all the previous ones to keep the output coherent and accurate. If the model is writing a sentence like “ The cat is black ”, it predicts each token in sequence. After writing “ The cat is ”, it looks at everything so far (plus the

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I Built a Powerful Gaming PC Solely to Run AI Models. Here's Why

cnet.com See Full Bio 2025-12-09 02:08:13

When it comes to AI, maybe ChatGPT or Gemini come to mind. There are other players like Perplexity, Claude, Grok and Mistral. In a booming market, there are a whole host of AI models out there, many of which don't even require an internet connection. Models that run without internet connections are called local AI models, and as the name suggests, they can be run on your own hardware. You don't need to connect to OpenAI's or Google's servers to use those versions of ChatGPT or Gemini. This bri

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GPT-5 Launch Demo Plagued With Catastrophically Dumb Errors

futurism.com Unknown 2025-12-09 06:20:37

OpenAI's GPT-5 is finally here and already powering ChatGPT, but it hasn't made a great first impression. In a livestream dedicated to the release, OpenAI tried to show off its newest large language model which CEO Sam Altman called a "significant step along the path to AGI"— but instead turned heads with some catastrophically dumb errors. Across several examples, bar graphs intended to show off GPT-5's awesome performance benchmarks, while appearing professional-looking, turned out to be horr

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Intel CEO responds to Trump resignation call with letter to employees

9to5mac.com Marcus Mendes 2025-12-09 08:21:59

Yesterday, President Donald Trump publicly called for Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan’s resignation, over accusations of “deeply conflicted” ties to China. Now, he is speaking out and making it clear he has no plans to step aside. A quick recap Before joining Intel, Tan worked as CEO for Cadence Design Systems, a firm that just pleaded guilty to an investigation by the Justice Department over charges of “selling its chip-design products to a Chinese military university,” per the Wall Street Journal’s des

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It Took Just 24 Hours of Complaints for OpenAI to Start Bringing Back Its Old Model

gizmodo.com Matt Novak 2025-12-09 08:10:35

OpenAI unveiled its latest generative AI model, GPT-5, on Thursday. CEO Sam Altman says that ChatGPT is now like having a “superpower” and the equivalent of “a legitimate PhD-level expert in anything, any area you need, on demand, that can help you with whatever your goals are.” But after a day of playing around with it, many people are disappointed. Not only because GPT-5 still fumbles basic questions, but because it seems to be breaking a lot of workflows, according to complaints posted to Red

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Today's Wordle Hints, Answer and Help for Aug. 9, #1512

cnet.com See Full Bio 2025-12-09 06:00:06

Gael Cooper CNET editor Gael Fashingbauer Cooper, a journalist and pop-culture junkie, is co-author of "Whatever Happened to Pudding Pops? The Lost Toys, Tastes and Trends of the '70s and '80s," as well as "The Totally Sweet '90s." She's been a journalist since 1989, working at Mpls.St.Paul Magazine, Twin Cities Sidewalk, the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and NBC News Digital. She's Gen X in birthdate, word and deed. If Marathon candy bars ever come back, she'll be first in line.

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Apple brings OpenAI’s GPT-5 to iOS and macOS

arstechnica.com Unknown 2025-12-09 08:30:44

OpenAI's GPT-5 model went live for most ChatGPT users this week, but lots of people use ChatGPT not through OpenAI's interface but through other platforms or tools. One of the largest deployments is iOS, the iPhone operating system, which allows users to make certain queries via GPT-4o. It turns out those users won't have to wait long for the latest model: Apple will switch to GPT-5 in iOS 26, iPadOS 26, and macOS Tahoe 26, according to 9to5Mac. Apple has not officially announced when those OS

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Sam Altman addresses ‘bumpy’ GPT-5 rollout, bringing 4o back, and the ‘chart crime’

techcrunch.com Julie Bort 2025-12-09 08:06:30

During a Reddit ask-me-anything session on Friday, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and key members of the GPT-5 team were peppered with questions about the new model and requests to bring back its previous model, GPT-4o. They also asked Altman about the most embarrassing — and perhaps funniest — snafu in the presentation, the “chart crime.” One of the new features that GPT-5 rolled out is a real-time router that decides which model to use for a particular prompt, either responding quickly or taking addi

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Hubble Captures Glorious New Image of That Mysterious Object Cruising Into Our Solar System

futurism.com Unknown 2025-12-09 11:10:25

As the mysterious interstellar object known as 3I/ATLAS plummets through our Solar System, NASA's good old Hubble Space Telescope has captured the best look yet at the interstellar visitor. On July 21, the interstellar interloper passed close enough to Earth — and to Hubble, which orbits us at about 320 miles above the planet — that the veteran space telescope was able to capture a surprisingly detailed image of it, NASA explains in a statement about the image. In the space agency's incredible

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OpenAI keeps GPT-4o active and doubles GPT-5 usage for some users

9to5mac.com Zac Hall 2025-12-09 12:34:20

Yesterday OpenAI released GPT-5, the latest model update to ChatGPT. More than 24 hours later, the new model is still rolling out to paid and free customers. Meanwhile, OpenAI is reconsidering the availability of certain models and limitations for customers. The new model will also be more transparent and offer more control over which tools it uses for which requests. Let’s start with the rollout status. I was pleasantly surprised when OpenAI said GPT-5 would be available to almost all of its u

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OpenAI's GPT-5 is now free for all: How to access and everything else we know

zdnet.com Sabrina Ortiz 2025-12-09 12:27:00

OpenAI ZDNET's key takeaways OpenAI has launched its long-awaited GPT-5 model. The model is claimed to be OpenAI's fastest, smartest, and most capable yet. GPT-5 is available to everyone: Free, Plus, Pro, and Team/Enterprise/Edu users. There are two kinds of OpenAI models in this world: GPT and reasoning models. The advantages of the former, such as GPT-4o, are that they combine speed and accuracy, while reasoning models such as o3 and o4 take longer to think and use more compute power to p

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GPT-5 Under Fire: Red Teaming OpenAI's Model Reveals Surprising Weaknesses

news.ycombinator.com Unknown 2025-12-09 11:53:47

Why We Tested GPT-5 GPT‑5 is making waves as OpenAI’s most advanced general-purpose model: faster, smarter, and more integrated across modalities. Its auto-routing architecture seamlessly switches between a quick-response model and a deeper reasoning model without requiring a separate “reasoning model” toggle. GPT‑5 itself decides whether to “think hard.” OpenAI also emphasizes GPT‑5’s enhanced internal self-validation. I t’s supposed to assess multiple reasoning paths internally and “double-

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Jim Lovell, Apollo 13 commander, has died

news.ycombinator.com Jessica Taveau 2025-12-09 11:12:18

Portrait of NASA astronaut Jim Lovell Credit: NASA The following is a statement from acting NASA Administrator Sean Duffy on the passing of famed Apollo astronaut Jim Lovell. He passed away Aug. 7, in Lake Forest, Illinois. He was 97 years old. “NASA sends its condolences to the family of Capt. Jim Lovell, whose life and work inspired millions of people across the decades. Jim’s character and steadfast courage helped our nation reach the Moon and turned a potential tragedy into a success from

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Massive Pixel leak spoils everything ahead of Google launch event

androidauthority.com Unknown 2025-12-09 17:54:06

TL;DR A leak may have revealed the specs of the Pixel 10 series. The same leak also spilled details on the Pixel Watch 4. The specs for the Pixel Buds 2a have also been shared. Before we know it, August 20 will be here and Google will finally unveil the Pixel 10 series. Along with the launch of the next-generation phones, we expect to see the Pixel Watch 4 and Pixel Buds 2a. However, by the time August 20 rolls around, the tech giant may not have anything left to surprise us with. A new leak

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M5 MacBook Pro No Longer Coming in 2025

news.ycombinator.com Juli Clover 2025-12-09 16:43:32

Apple does not plan to refresh any Macs with updated M5 chips in 2025, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. Updated MacBook Air and MacBook Pro models are now planned for the first half of 2026. Gurman previously said that Apple would debut the M5 ‌MacBook Pro‌ models in late 2025, but his newest report suggests that Apple is "considering" pushing them back to 2026. Apple is now said to be "internally targeting" a launch early next year. The current M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max ‌MacBook Pro‌ mode

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How attention sinks keep language models stable

news.ycombinator.com Guangxuan Xiao 2025-12-09 04:53:10

We discovered why language models catastrophically fail on long conversations: when old tokens are removed to save memory, models produce complete gibberish. We found models dump massive attention onto the first few tokens as "attention sinks"—places to park unused attention since softmax requires weights to sum to 1. Our solution, StreamingLLM, simply keeps these first 4 tokens permanently while sliding the window for everything else, enabling stable processing of 4 million+ tokens instead of j

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A message from Intel CEO Lip-Bu Tan to all company employees

news.ycombinator.com Matt Hyatt 2025-12-09 15:48:29

The following note from Lip-Bu Tan was sent to all Intel Corporation employees on August 7, 2025: Dear Team, I know there has been a lot in the news today, and I want to take a moment to address it directly with you. Let me start by saying this: The United States has been my home for more than 40 years. I love this country and am profoundly grateful for the opportunities it has given me. I also love this company. Leading Intel at this critical moment is not just a job – it’s a privilege. This

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Apollo 13 Commander Jim Lovell has passed away

news.ycombinator.com Jessica Taveau 2025-12-09 17:12:18

Portrait of NASA astronaut Jim Lovell Credit: NASA The following is a statement from acting NASA Administrator Sean Duffy on the passing of famed Apollo astronaut Jim Lovell. He passed away Aug. 7, in Lake Forest, Illinois. He was 97 years old. “NASA sends its condolences to the family of Capt. Jim Lovell, whose life and work inspired millions of people across the decades. Jim’s character and steadfast courage helped our nation reach the Moon and turned a potential tragedy into a success from

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Telefon Hírmondó

news.ycombinator.com Unknown 2025-12-04 20:50:36

The Telefon Hírmondó (also Telefonhírmondó, generally translated as "Telephone Herald")[1][2] was a "telephone newspaper" located in Budapest, Hungary, which, beginning in 1893, provided news and entertainment to subscribers over telephone lines. It was both the first and the longest surviving telephone newspaper system,[3] although from 1 December 1925 until its termination in 1944 it was primarily used to retransmit programmes broadcast by Magyar Rádió.[4] Three decades before the development

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The surprise deprecation of GPT-4o for ChatGPT consumers

news.ycombinator.com Simon Willison 2025-12-09 16:04:26

The surprise deprecation of GPT-4o for ChatGPT consumers I’ve been dipping into the r/ChatGPT subreddit recently to see how people are reacting to the GPT-5 launch, and so far the vibes there are not good. This AMA thread with the OpenAI team is a great illustration of the single biggest complaint: a lot of people are very unhappy to lose access to the much older GPT-4o, previously ChatGPT’s default model for most users. A big surprise for me yesterday was that OpenAI simultaneously retired ac

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